{"id":230,"date":"2008-10-20T01:52:29","date_gmt":"2008-10-20T01:52:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/2008\/10\/20\/HaveYouMisquotedStAugustineToday.aspx"},"modified":"2008-10-20T01:52:29","modified_gmt":"2008-10-20T01:52:29","slug":"have-you-misquoted-st-augustine-today","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/?p=230","title":{"rendered":"Have you misquoted St. Augustine today?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I am surprised to find out how many people have quoted St. Augustine as saying: &#8220;What was God doing before He created the World&#8221;, &#8220;He was creating Hell for people who ask questions like that&#8221;.\u00a0 I was doing some research tonight, and I was surprised to find so many people quoting Augustine as saying this (both in theology books and secular writings alike).\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>Being a good student (and learning my lesson the hard way of quoting things without checking the source), I pulled out my Confessions to find this quote and read it for myself, before I quoted it.  However, as I pulled out my confessions I found that Augustine did not actually say what everyone is quoting him as saying (I&#8217;ve also checked the Penguin Classics translation against my Oxford World&#8217;s Classics to verify that I wasn&#8217;t reading a translation error).\n<\/p>\n<p>In fact, Augustine said that he would never choose to answer such a question with such a response.\u00a0 Here is the exact quote from my translation (Penguin was a bit different but said essentially the same):\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 36pt\">This is my reply to anyone who asks: &#8216;What was God doing before he made heaven and earth?&#8217;\u00a0 My reply is not that which someone is said to have given as a joke to evade the force of the question.\u00a0 He said: &#8216;He was preparing hells for people who inquire into profundities.&#8217;\u00a0 It is one thing to laugh, another to see the point at issue, and this reply I reject.\u00a0 I would have preferred him to answer &#8216;I am ignorant of what I do not know&#8217; rather than reply so as to ridicule someone who has asked a deep question and to win approval for an answer which is a mistake.\u00a0 \u2013 The Confessions, Book 11, Section 14, Oxford World&#8217;s Classics \u2013 translated by Henry Chadwick.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I think this quote can still be used for a humorous ice breaker for either side of the discussion, to get people&#8217;s attention &#8211; making sure of course, to word the introduction to the quote in such a way as to not attribute to Augustine himself.\n<\/p>\n<p>I was just surprised that so many intellectuals have misquoted him, that I just thought I would pass this along!\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am surprised to find out how many people have quoted St. Augustine as saying: &#8220;What was God doing before He created the World&#8221;, &#8220;He was creating Hell for people who ask questions like that&#8221;.\u00a0 I was doing some research tonight, and I was surprised to find so many people quoting Augustine as saying this &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/?p=230\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Have you misquoted St. Augustine today?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,22,23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-230","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-philosophy","category-religion","category-school"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/230","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=230"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/230\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=230"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=230"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/darthjedi.logiodice.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=230"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}